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Postby mooney » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:47 am

I'm just starting my quest for parts and materials for a unique style Rosary to help promote saying the rosary within a youth group (skateboarders & christian rock music fans) I am trying to reach out to. I want to use leather and out of the ordinary style beads & crosses probably mostly metal. Is leather even usable? I realize I may be talking about a much bigger Rosary, but I want it to catch their attention and get them interest, even a little, in carrying one with them daily

I was thinking of going to a bead shop to see what they have, but what are your thoughts? I need sources for unique beads, crosses and other items i could use to catch these kids attention. Has this been done before, or am I going down a path that is disrespectful towards the Rosary?

Thanks,

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leather rosary

Postby Maire » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:22 pm

Thanks, Mooney... this is a great idea! I did not realize leather could be used for rosaries, but found some photos online and they are very nice!
http://franciscanrosary.com/
If you use a thin leather cord, it looks like it would be flexible enough to make the barrel knots.

OLRM has some nice crucifixes. Sometimes I've used a San Damiano crucifix for gift rosaries. Your young people may especially appreciate its meaning and the story of St. Francis of Assisi.

Yes, your local bead shop would be a good place to find supplies and advice.
Some online suppliers which may have more unique beads are Fire Mountain Gems, Shipwreck Beads, and Artbeads. The customer service people at these places are very helpful.

Some things you will want to consider and calculate before you begin:
- the finished weight of your rosary (I once made one entirely of metal beads, but it turned out much too heavy to be used; I ended up dismantling it and made chaplets instead.) You might consider using metal beads for Paters and lighter-weight wooden beads for Ave's.
- the size of the opening in your beads (must be large enough to fit the thicker leather cord) and
- the length of cord needed to complete your rosary. (Overestimate because the knots will likely use more cord than you anticipate).

Let us know how it works out.

God bless you.
Mary
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Re: leather rosary

Postby mooney » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:43 pm

Maire wrote:Thanks, Mooney... this is a great idea! I did not realize leather could be used for rosaries, but found some photos online and they are very nice!
http://franciscanrosary.com/
If you use a thin leather cord, it looks like it would be flexible enough to make the barrel knots.

OLRM has some nice crucifixes. Sometimes I've used a San Damiano crucifix for gift rosaries. Your young people may especially appreciate its meaning and the story of St. Francis of Assisi.

Yes, your local bead shop would be a good place to find supplies and advice.
Some online suppliers which may have more unique beads are Fire Mountain Gems, Shipwreck Beads, and Artbeads. The customer service people at these places are very helpful.

Some things you will want to consider and calculate before you begin:
- the finished weight of your rosary (I once made one entirely of metal beads, but it turned out much too heavy to be used; I ended up dismantling it and made chaplets instead.) You might consider using metal beads for Paters and lighter-weight wooden beads for Ave's.
- the size of the opening in your beads (must be large enough to fit the thicker leather cord) and
- the length of cord needed to complete your rosary. (Overestimate because the knots will likely use more cord than you anticipate).

Let us know how it works out.

God bless you.
Mary


Mary, THANK YOU!

I've seen many necklaces that I thought would be a great basis for a rosary. I've always wanted to make one for myself, but then thought why not use them to get the kids interested in praying as a group or just keeping with them in case they felt moved to pray the rosary in private.

That web site really has me thinking :-) Thanks for the link!!! I wonder how they tie those barrel knots, I like that style knot. I never thought about a pocket rosary, that will have to be a project as well. I saw some rosary necklaces as well on a website and the kids are really into the tribal look crosses on leather necklaces. Is there anything wrong with wearing something designed as a rosary and necklace? I remember the sisters/nuns in school would stress to us not to wear them, but is there anything wrong or written stating it's not acceptable to wear something that is blessed and used for praying the rosary?

The weight might be a problem with those that use a traditional rosary, but I think the youth might actually like a big heavy rosary or necklace, kind of a statement for them and still "cool". Now if it makes their pants fall down when they are in their pockets that's a different story :-)

I plan to do some shopping next week. I did notice that the beads designed for bigger chain or leather are very expensive. That might be an issue, but I'm sure i can make It happen. I hope to be able to give these away to the kids/youth who want to learn to pray the rosary.

Thanks for the advice and help. I will post pics as I get started.

Blessings,

Herb
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Re: leather rosary

Postby Maire » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:57 am

mooney wrote:... I wonder how they tie those barrel knots, I like that style knot. ...
...The weight might be a problem with those that use a traditional rosary, but I think the youth might actually like a big heavy rosary or necklace, kind of a statement for them and still "cool". Now if it makes their pants fall down when they are in their pockets that's a different story :-)


Mooney, I'm picturing each of your young friends with a pocketful of rosary, and suspenders... it is a sweet sight to imagine!

We use the barrel knot to make mission rosaries. There are some great instructions right here at OLRM.
Will try to give you more links in the next day or two.

Peace be with you.
mary
Last edited by Maire on Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:08 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Maire » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:35 am

Mooney, sorry for the delay. I had a couple sick days.

These tutorials are a great help when learning to make barrel knots:
http://www.olrm.org/cord_inst.html
and http://www.rosarymakersguide.org/makeacordrosary.htm

To make mission rosaries with #9 cord, we use a special tool to form the coils and channel the cord through them:
http://www.olrm.org/online_store/index. ... oductId=60
I'm not familiar with leather cord or the size you will be using, but it might be too thick to use the method above.

Rosary Army has great instructions for making all-knotted rosaries with #36 cord. This may be closer in size to what you want to do:
http://www.rosaryarmy.com/?page_id=39

Before you begin work with leather, you may want to get some plain twine at your hardware store or home-supply store and practice with that first. If a knot does not seem to be going right, better to undo it and start over before tightening all the way.

I like the one-decade pocket rosaries, too. Irish ancestors used something similar during the persecution.

In answer to your question about wearing rosary beads around one's neck, maybe it would be best to ask your parish priest for guidance about this. The answer I've found is that it is cultural and depends on individual circumstances. In places where there is great devotion to praying the rosary, we've seen beautiful group photos especially of children wearing them. Many members of our military wear their rosaries as a sign of faith and to always to have them close by; patients in hospitals and nursing homes have found comfort in wearing them. I believe you will not find anything to say that it is intrinsically wrong to wear a rosary. But here in the USA it does not seem to be encouraged.

http://tinyurl.com/2c2t9xh

http://tinyurl.com/2b2m8rv

http://ewtn.com.au/vexperts/showmessage ... =1&recnu=1

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.p ... f3&t=80700

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.p ... 020&page=2

It is unfortunate that in our culture some people do wear a rosary as a fashion statement or gang symbol without having any idea what it means. Even if that rosary has not been blessed to become a sacramental, it is a misuse and is disrespectful to secularize something sacred. Those young people who wear a rosary with devotion may be imitated by others who do not reverence it. This is a complicated question. I hope someone else will chime in to give you a better answer.

Our Lady of Guadalupe did give us the image of herself wearing a cross.
If you decide not to make rosaries to be worn, maybe you still could make something for the members of your youth group to wear... a cross on leather cord with metal beads, along with a matching rosary for their pocket.

Sorry my answer is so long. Hope this helps a little.
Look forward to seeing your photos.

Happy Christmas to everyone!

Mary
LORD, let Your mercy be on us, as we place our trust in You. ~ Psalm 33:22

Knotted Cord Rosary for Troops and for Veterans:
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http://www.seatofwisdom.net/veterans.htm
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Newbie with "other" materials question

Postby carpenters_dtr » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:53 am

Here is a site if you want to buy the leather cord in bulk. I have ordered from them & like the service. You would probably need to use the pony beads with the thickness of the cord.

http://www.satincord.com/LTHR-5000-001- ... ather.html

Not sure if you know how to macrame. I'm planning on trying to make a rosary similar to this. Could also use a 1mm hemp cord also.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 97.c0.m619

They may also like these rosary bracelets:

http://www.youtube.com/user/GabiAfterHo ... -9EEXXFCXg
Kathy

"I look to you,
brothers & sisters of every state of life,
to you Christian families,
to you the sick & elderly,
and to you young people:
Confidently take up the rosary once again."
- Pope John Paul II
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I use beads of many colors

Postby Dr Bill » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:21 pm

I make the mission cord rosary with all the peaces of leftover beads. I gave them to all the teenagers around my house and have had kids come to get a Rosary. I also give them a card and paper on how to pray the Rosary.

At halloween I gave out mission Rosary sealed in a bag with the card on how to pray the Rosary. Parents actually came and asked for a Rosary. some of these families are now coming to mass.

Do any thing you can to reach these kids.

God bless and keep up the great work.
Look back and thank God
Look Forward and trust God.
Look around and serve God.
Look within and find God
God closes doors no man can open and
God opens doors no man can close.

Mary help us.
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